数学问题. 求问各位大佬, 上面这个式子, 是怎么变成下面这个式子的?

catacalysmic-avatar

catacalysmic

这不是很显然吗 1/y = ? 1/y - 1 = ? ln(1/y - 1) = ?
JorPorCor-avatar

JorPorCor

e的负一次方等于e分之一你知道吧?
Altitude-avatar

Altitude

[quote][pid=499406804,25866391,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=781208]vbtraz[/uid] (2021-03-11 15:17):

这不是很显然吗 1/y = ? 1/y - 1 = ? ln(1/y - 1) = ?[/quote]z = wx + b

1/y = 1 + e^-z
1/y - 1 = e^-z
ln(1/y - 1) = -z

后面呢..还没彻底明白..求指点..
Altitude-avatar

Altitude

[quote][pid=499407551,25866391,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=61368137]dmoodedy[/uid] (2021-03-11 15:19):

e的负一次方等于e分之一你知道吧?[/quote]嗯呐, 知道.

a^-r = 1/(a^r)
h i-avatar

h i

[quote][pid=499407784,25866391,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=42688974]dreamscometrue[/uid] (2021-03-11 15:20):

z = wx + b

1/y = 1 + e^-z
1/y - 1 = e^-z
ln(1/y - 1) = -z

后面呢..还没彻底明白..求指点..[/quote]你这直接负号过去不就完了
JorPorCor-avatar

JorPorCor

Reply to [pid=499407784,25866391,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=42688974]dreamscometrue[/uid] (2021-03-11 15:20)你先把e的负方那个负号解决了变成正方再求对数啊
Altitude-avatar

Altitude

[quote][pid=499408557,25866391,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=42178842]夜阳_午夜[/uid] (2021-03-11 15:23):

你这直接负号过去不就完了[/quote]-ln(1/y - 1)

这个等于啥哦..真不知道...
JorPorCor-avatar

JorPorCor

Reply to [pid=499409074,25866391,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=42688974]dreamscometrue[/uid] (2021-03-11 15:24)在这之前解决负号,后解决负号不是不行,但又得倒回去走回头路
h i-avatar

h i

[quote][pid=499409074,25866391,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=42688974]dreamscometrue[/uid] (2021-03-11 15:24):

-ln(1/y - 1)

这个等于啥哦..真不知道...[/quote]k*lna=ln(a^k)
catacalysmic-avatar

catacalysmic

[quote][pid=499409074,25866391,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=42688974]dreamscometrue[/uid] (2021-03-11 15:24):

-ln(1/y - 1)

这个等于啥哦..真不知道...[/quote] -ln(x) = ln(1/x)

这都向量乘了初中代数还搞不清呀 多努力吧
Seymore Butts-avatar

Seymore Butts

字烂,[img]https://img.nga.178.com/attachments/mon_202103/11/-7Qj0p-dfrnK1yT3cSsg-lc.jpg.medium.jpg[/img]将就看。
Altitude-avatar

Altitude

[quote][pid=499409526,25866391,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=61368137]dmoodedy[/uid] (2021-03-11 15:26):

在这之前解决负号,后解决负号不是不行,但又得倒回去走回头路[/quote][img]https://img.nga.178.com/attachments/mon_202103/11/-7Qj0p-8y0cZcT3cSlw-ks.jpg[/img]
我只会算出来这个..不知道怎么变成书上的那个样子..
lexcity-avatar

lexcity

自己的作业自己作。。。
这不是最基础的化简么
Itsuki-avatar

Itsuki

一看就是西瓜书[s:ac:哭笑]
[img]https://img.nga.178.com/attachments/mon_202103/11/-7Qj0p-5balZbT3cSsg-l9.jpg[/img]
h i-avatar

h i

[quote][pid=499411021,25866391,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=42688974]dreamscometrue[/uid] (2021-03-11 15:31):

[img]https://img.nga.178.com/attachments/mon_202103/11/-7Qj0p-8y0cZcT3cSlw-ks.jpg[/img]
我只会算出来这个..不知道怎么变成书上的那个样子..[/quote][s:ac:喷]你这也太离谱了,上下乘个y不就好了
JorPorCor-avatar

JorPorCor

Reply to [pid=499411021,25866391,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=42688974]dreamscometrue[/uid] (2021-03-11 15:31)你这……括号里不是小学内容吗,再化简不就行了