货拉拉这个案例,泥潭老哥觉得应该怎么判何时?

City Escape-avatar

City Escape

2021-09-07T04:12:35+00:00

[s:ac:茶]证据不足,扯皮空间太大。法院判决又要照顾社会舆论。官媒当初的意思是司机在跳车前处置不当,没有减速靠边

但考虑到是从司机车上掉下来的,且出了人命。判一年,可缓刑我觉得挺ok的。。

问问泥潭老哥觉得怎么判合适?



编辑一下。刚又补了一下罗翔关于超速装死跳楼的那个例子。。想了一下,好像确实不能构成犯罪[s:ac:瞎]
Marcolee-avatar

Marcolee

就四个字:疑罪从无
而且人家司机轻踩刹车是正确的做法
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Darugo Sueño

在一个律师事务所找的相关类型文章。

If two people are in a moving vehicle and an accident occurs, it is easy to assume that the incident is the driver’s fault. The driver is in control of the vehicle and has a duty to avoid putting passengers in danger.

But what if the passenger willingly leaps from the moving vehicle? What responsibility does the driver have to slow down or slam on the brakes to protect the passenger? The passenger is making the decision to jump from a moving vehicle, a very dangerous maneuver. Who is at fault?

A driver is responsible for the safety of passengers to a certain degree. For instance, they should not purposely put the lives of passengers in danger by veering off the road or colliding with another vehicle or failing to pay attention to the road. However, it is worth considering whether or not the driver is responsible for preventing the passenger from harming himself or herself while in the vehicle.

Appeal to consider negligence

In a recent case, a man filed an appeal, claiming that he suffered injuries after jumping from a moving vehicle, and that the respondent (the driver) should have slowed down the car or tried to stop the vehicle. The appellant claims that the driver knew he was going to exit the vehicle abruptly, yet made no action to avoid injuring the appellant.

The primary judge found that it was not the respondent’s duty to protect the appellant from causing harm to himself, and that the appellant would likely have suffered injuries of equal or almost equal proportion if the respondent had decided to brake before the appellant jumped from the vehicle.

The Court considers the appeal

The Court then had to reconsider whether the appellant’s injuries would have been avoided or lessened had the driver slowed down, and whether it was a driver’s responsibility to protect the passenger from harming himself.

While the court acknowledged that the respondent had some duty to minimise the harm of a passenger, the Court found no error with the primary judge’s decision. It was ruled a matter of speculation whether the respondent’s further action would have lessened the severity of the appellant’s injuries. The Court also cited a similar case, which supported the consideration that there were only a few seconds between when the appellant opened the door and when he jumped, giving the respondent little time to act.

The appeal was dismissed, and the appellant was ordered to pay the respondent’s costs of the appeal.

在最近的一起案件中,一名男子提起上诉,声称他是从行驶中的车辆上跳下来受伤的,被告(司机)应该放慢车速或试图停车。上诉人声称,司机知道他要突然下车,但没有采取行动避免伤害上诉人。

主审法官认为,保护上诉人免于对自己造成伤害并不是被上诉人的责任,如果被上诉人在上诉人跳下车辆之前决定刹车,上诉人很可能遭受同等或几乎同等比例的伤害。 .

法院随后不得不重新考虑如果司机放慢速度是否可以避免或减轻上诉人的伤害,以及保护乘客免于伤害自己是否是司机的责任。

虽然法院承认被告有责任将乘客的伤害降到最低,但法院认为主审法官的决定没有错误。被告的进一步行动是否会减轻上诉人受伤的严重程度,被裁定为猜测问题。法院还引用了一个类似的案例,支持了上诉人开门和跳楼之间只有几秒钟的时间,被上诉人几乎没有时间采取行动的考虑。

上诉被驳回,并责令上诉人支付被上诉人的上诉费用。

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AstronomicalAlly-avatar

AstronomicalAlly

无罪,只认无罪
Paulodan3-avatar

Paulodan3

和行人闯红灯出意外一样 顶多是赔偿经济 绝不能入刑
norbert-avatar

norbert

以命抵命,死刑立即执行
GlossyFlyerr-avatar

GlossyFlyerr

先不管怎么判,程序要正义,至少要允许被告人见自己的律师
RiveGauche-avatar

RiveGauche

社会舆论的意思是只有一种舆论要照顾?
Mutelz-avatar

Mutelz

无刑事责任 少部分民事责任
Zylof4-avatar

Zylof4

那肯定是有……
不然关了大半年谁负责,你损失的是几个月,人家耽误的是一生前途[s:a2:doge]
Danz-avatar

Danz

要么无罪,要么死刑
RiveGauche-avatar

RiveGauche

社会舆论的意思是只有一种舆论要照顾?
Alpha_KhanTTV-avatar

Alpha_KhanTTV

快进到栅栏这个检察院。
darthblaise-avatar

darthblaise

官媒脑补处置不当
现在还没说出怎么处置不当法
bawool007-avatar

bawool007

警方都说没问题,放了
Seventh-avatar

Seventh

目前99.99999999999%一审要判有罪了吧
Fridge-avatar

Fridge

“证据不足”
这一条就够了
疑罪从无原则,证据不足就是无罪
DARKSOULS-avatar

DARKSOULS

我就服两个结果:
1.无罪当庭释放
2.故意杀人20年起步
[s:ac:茶]
DEX 浮世-avatar

DEX 浮世

我没什么发言权,只参考过往案例和大V、知名律师还有公司法务的看法,基本都认为是民事责任,赔钱就完事了,上升不到刑事责任,你所说的判一缓一,表面上是皆大欢喜,实际上司机要背负刑事责任,三代以内进国企、做公务员都很困难
Stray-avatar

Stray

ok个屁!!!刑事犯罪疑罪从无啊,以事实为依据,以法律为准绳,结果就这样?为了舆论?