广汽传祺这个gs8混动用的 第四代丰田ths 有大手子简单介绍下区别吗

普锐斯倒是有第四代，不知道是不是同一个东西。以下是丰田欧洲传统系统设计首席项目经理的演讲：
Technological evolution of 4 generations Technical highlights of the latest system in the Toyota Prius Nearly 20 years of Full Hybrid experience in the global market
Since the 1st market introduction nearly 20 years ago, Toyota’s full hybrid technology has been continuously improved through 3 generations that are described in the presentation for reference. The main content of their presentation at the CTI Symposium will describe the Toyota Hybrid System in its 4th generation in more detail, as available in the market in the New Prius. The new hybrid system is more compact and lighter. The new hybrid battery offers higher energy density. Whilst its total power was maintained, its size has been reduced so that it is located entirely beneath the rear seats, avoiding any intrusion in the load space. It can now absorb more energy in the same amount of time, which means that it charges faster than before. Cooling efficiency and regeneration range have been improved too. The electric motors are smaller in size, yet also provide a better power-to-weight ratio. Higher motor speed and new forced water-convection cooling in place of air cooling improve the efficiency. The new multi-shaft transaxle design is more compact, which allowed to relocate the 12V battery of the vehicle back into the engine compartment and further improve load space as a result.

Careful attention has been paid to the NVH behaviour of the transmission in combination with the power control unit (PCU) sitting on top of it. The PCU itself has been totally redesigned, resulting in a reduction in size, weight and electrical losses. Updates to the hybrid system software allow to accelerHybrid Systemate the car in a low engine rev range and in less dependency on the combustion engine at higher speeds, improving fuel economy. The fuel economy achieved by the new Prius on a vehicle level marks the largest improvement between generations of the hybrid model, achieved thanks to improvements in the hybrid system and efficiency improvements throughout the car. This accomplishment reflects Toyota’s philosophy of refining existing technology the concept of having something good, then making it better. The main attributes that have made Toyota hybrids popular with drivers across the globe are their fuel efficiency, and the relaxed and carefree drive that they provide. Variations of the technology are used in a whole range of vehicles from the Toyota and Lexus brands, with several vehicle models being assembled in Europe.
说人话就是对比三代：
1、提高了能量密度，位置摆在后排座椅下面。
2、尺寸变小，电机功率变高，空冷改成了水冷
3、更宽发动机转速适配。就是低速的时候可以不怎么提高发动机转速，高速的时候减少对发动机的依赖(应该就是电池和电机加大的功劳)

我怎么记得丰田自己在论文里只有1代和2代。。。

[quote][pid=517952017,26856158,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=654602]rh82697[/uid] (2021-05-21 23:25):

我怎么记得丰田自己在论文里只有1代和2代。。。[/quote]第四代，丰田自己也才刚刚量产，第一款车应该是新汉兰达

[quote][tid=26856158]Topic[/tid] Post by [uid=63123654]cc1明天[/uid] (2021-05-21 23:11):

跟之前的三代有啥子区别？

现在的卡罗拉、凯美瑞用的ths 是几代呢？

是可以高速跟电机脱钩直接驱动轮子了吗？

威兰达phev 四驱 前电机130kw 后电机40 发动机132 加速进6 馈电5.x ths的加速也没那么差嘛？

[img]https://img.nga.178.com/attachments/mon_202105/21/-7da9Q2o-km3cZkT1kShs-12h.jpg[/img][/quote]楼主你这是直接复制了我的截图啊[s:ac:瞎]

Reply to [pid=517953261,26856158,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=35393231]gu631010[/uid] (2021-05-21 23:32)谢谢你[s:ac:吻]

Reply to [pid=517952017,26856158,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=654602]rh82697[/uid] (2021-05-21 23:25)集合楼上的 跟我印象中确实有你这个说法

可能是1到2 结构、逻辑升级
3跟4 就是各组件更牛逼了 但是逻辑没改

[quote][pid=517953118,26856158,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=35393231]gu631010[/uid] (2021-05-21 23:31):

第四代，丰田自己也才刚刚量产，第一款车应该是新汉兰达[/quote]我记得19年查一些文献的时候。丰田自己内部对4代普锐斯的ths还是称呼是2代。只是2代改进型。。

[quote][pid=517959768,26856158,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=654602]rh82697[/uid] (2021-05-22 00:00):

我记得19年查一些文献的时候。丰田自己内部对4代普锐斯的ths还是称呼是2代。只是2代改进型。。[/quote]没错，真正的改变就是同轴结构改平行轴那次，算是换代。但是一般媒体都按照普锐斯的代数来算，所以是四代。 其实这样算会很尴尬，因为纵置那块就没地放了，然后还有一些特别型号也算不进去，但习惯成自然了。

[quote][pid=517953118,26856158,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=35393231]gu631010[/uid] (2021-05-21 23:31):

第四代，丰田自己也才刚刚量产，第一款车应该是新汉兰达[/quote]没，2017年开始就四代了，p610/710/810这些。

小改进不算进代数。

所以给广汽的就是当前丰田自己用的版本，然后让广汽自己去捣鼓。丰田吃饱了花钱再去把旧版本弄出来，ths讲究的就是一个走量。