[硬件产品讨论] 关于老黄最近新出的3050,我放个1660s的分数,你们感受一下再考虑要不要冲2799的首发限价

I am McLovin-avatar

I am McLovin

2022-01-30T07:43:08+00:00

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闷在山里过年太无聊了,跑跑3dmark上来水帖[s:ac:哭笑]

先是参数
RTX3050 三星8nm 安培架构 2560sp(除以2)130-170w功耗 128bit位宽 8g gd6
GTX1660super tsmc12nm 图灵架构 1408sp 125w功耗 192bit位宽 6g gd6

对比嘛,就用chh测的七彩虹旗舰3050的数据,双8pin 170w功耗上限三风扇给一个50系卡怎么看怎么不对劲[s:ac:哭笑]
[url]https://www.chiphell.com/article-26973-1.html[/url]
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截取一下数据,这个rtx3050在normal模式下fs 1.55w fse 7k3 ts 6k1,turbo就是官超模式,目测是功耗拉高了十几瓦,跑分高了一两百

然后我用我手头一张耕升炫光1660s丐版跑了一下3dmark
[img]https://img.nga.178.com/attachments/mon_202201/30/9aQ2p-44aZkT3cS160-vi.jpg.medium.jpg[/img]
这张丐卡功耗锁死125w,接下来所有数据都是在此功耗下跑出来的

全auto ...
1080p dx11 fs 1.67w,比3050 normal高8%,比3050 turbo高4%
[img]https://img.nga.178.com/attachments/mon_202201/30/9aQ2p-l91yZ1xT3cS11l-o5.png.medium.jpg[/img]

2k dx11 fse 7k4,比3050 normal高1%,比3050 turbo低1%
[img]https://img.nga.178.com/attachments/mon_202201/30/9aQ2p-5z9vZ23T3cS11h-kx.png.medium.jpg[/img]

2k dx12 ts 6k1,和3050 normal持平,比3050 turbo低3%
[img]https://img.nga.178.com/attachments/mon_202201/30/9aQ2p-1su0Z1vT3cS10i-b5.png.medium.jpg[/img]
1660s超频 ...
用小飞机设置核心+140 显存+500,对于这张卡而言算是适中的超频幅度(上限是+180 +600过测)
fs 1.8w,直接超过3050 turbo接近13%
[img]https://img.nga.178.com/attachments/mon_202201/30/9aQ2p-3y3wZ1wT3cS117-l9.png.medium.jpg[/img]

fse 8k2,超过3050 turbo 9%
[img]https://img.nga.178.com/attachments/mon_202201/30/9aQ2p-dd2wZ23T3cS11h-kx.png.medium.jpg[/img]

ts 6k6,超过3050 turbo 5%
[img]https://img.nga.178.com/attachments/mon_202201/30/9aQ2p-ah8qZ1pT3cS12b-n5.png.medium.jpg[/img]
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锁125w功耗的1660s纯靠auto就打平了功耗高出近10w还用ss 8nm的3050,拉频率更加没得说,更何况在千元卡价位上还有开放125%功耗的1660ti,能够超频10%以上的性能,显而易见3050这卡其实就是个rtx1660super 8g[s:ac:哭笑]

就像另外一个帖子说的,现在1660s市场价回落2k出头,2060 12g性能比1660s强20%也跌到3k出头了,我个人认为是真没必要花2k4以上的价去买一个rtx1660super,各种2799冲限价首发3050的让人看着心疼啊,还不如+300买2060 12g。

这张卡的定位就应该是999-1399,哪怕是后溢价时期也不应该超过2k4。

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Yafet-avatar

Yafet

[quote][tid=30493742]Topic[/tid] Post by [uid=43006324]辣条王子loti的复活[/uid] (2022-01-30 15:45):

[/quote]有人买了,市场需求下降了,其他类型显卡价格调整空间更大了。
RedDwarfMaster-avatar

RedDwarfMaster

只要还有人忍不住,一直买,一万块的3050不是不可以[img]https://img.nga.178.com/attachments/mon_201209/14/-47218_5052bc4cc6331.png[/img]
这帮逼,你以为是做慈善的?
chappie-avatar

chappie

那么楼主,你能去看一眼现在1660S的价格嘛?
severe guf-avatar

severe guf

把零头抹掉我还能考虑一下。
别误会,我说的是前面的2[img]https://img.nga.178.com/attachments/mon_201209/14/-47218_5052c10d1f08c.png[/img]
Habibi1K-avatar

Habibi1K

[s:ac:哭笑]这卡丢人程度我觉得和农企6500XT不相上下
rorochii-avatar

rorochii

999的老爷爷R9NANO 175W功耗
[img]https://img.nga.178.com/attachments/mon_202201/30/9aQ2p-kbqaZdT3cSsg-f4.jpg.medium.jpg[/img]
[img]https://img.nga.178.com/attachments/mon_202201/30/9aQ2p-kfy4ZaT3cSsg-92.jpg.medium.jpg[/img]
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FlippyRobear-avatar

FlippyRobear

[quote][pid=585478467,30493742,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=61308902]hwalert[/uid] (2022-01-30 16:44):

[s:ac:哭笑]这卡丢人程度我觉得和农企6500XT不相上下[/quote]我也觉得差不多[s:ac:哭笑]
一个是把首发159刀的1650s翻出来卖1700
一个是把首发229刀的1660s翻出来卖2500
总体上差不多,考虑到6500xt在pcie3的表现,还有阉割过的编解码6500xt更丢人一点
Habibi1K-avatar

Habibi1K

Reply to [pid=585481745,30493742,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=42131792]搞什么无畏级[/uid] (2022-01-30 17:02)

[img]https://img.nga.178.com/attachments/mon_202201/30/9aQ2p-apb4KeToS5u-5v.jpg[/img]
[s:ac:哭笑]农企临时工放假期间还是看嘉然玩原神比较好,就不要出来丢人了
theoo-avatar

theoo

首发的时候1899
一群人喊狗都不买
肯定降价
然后几天过去了 怎么就2799了……
年底忙没关注硬件价格
真离谱到家了
I am McLovin-avatar

I am McLovin

[quote][pid=585477411,30493742,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=43021329]ragnarok_lol[/uid] (2022-01-30 16:38):

那么楼主,你能去看一眼现在1660S的价格嘛?[/quote]算力不到1660s一半,性能还不如16系的东西,你觉得现在这价格合适吗[s:ac:汗]
McMackle-avatar

McMackle

[quote][pid=585626995,30493742,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=43006324]辣条王子loti的复活[/uid] (2022-01-31 11:58):

算力不到1660s一半,性能还不如16系的东西,你觉得现在这价格合适吗[s:ac:汗][/quote]不合适就对了,对普通玩家来说新卡肯定比二手矿渣要好得多,如果真有的选的话没人会买3050[s:a2:中枪]然后你再参考下当初同样丢人3060的发布时间和解锁时间,人家皮衣黄的算盘早就打好了。
我是木瓜-avatar

我是木瓜

只要超过八九九,我买我是狗,呵,tui[s:ac:反对]
Ahriman The Dark Prophet-avatar

Ahriman The Dark Prophet

1660s只要卖3050原价肯定大把人买啊,问题是。。。