说真的,不要强求影视文学作品有什么思想性,更不要吹他们有

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TheBookKeeper

2021-12-04T20:16:23+00:00

以前经常看电影看书和人讨论什么贫富差距问题,可后来读了硕士稍微看了看帕累托最优的相关论文,就感慨原来不那么前沿的学术界已经把贫富差距这个问题量化分析到如此细致的地步了,前后一共看了不到十篇论文再回去看知乎上那些什么社会财富分配问题的高赞就感觉网友们的思辨水平真是太可笑了,感觉就跟一帮求导都没学的中学生讨论数学分析解析几何一样

其实感觉很多非人文类的作品思想性已经是非常非常小儿科的东西了,比如攻壳机动队里那些哲学,大空头里那些金融学,十二怒汉里的法律学之类的,入门都谈不上,相当幼稚
幼稚到什么程度,这么说吧,中文互联网里天天撕政治的人无论立场如何,都没几个瞧的上V字仇杀队的那种朴素的安拿其思想的吧[s:ac:汗]
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mangomonkey

所以分享下这不到十篇论文呗
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KOTB-28

标题是在说在文艺作品没思想,贴子是在说文艺作品不学术,硕士学位也会文不对题吗
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Mr. Smish

说某部作品深刻,并不是指它在学术上很有深度...而是他选择了一个本身就很深刻的题材,然后很精彩地将其表现出来。
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Poena

是,哥你说的太对了
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Sociopaten

如果看了论文觉得醍醐灌顶, 说明你之前在这方面没有任何基础可言, 甚至连基本的修改意见都提不出来。

事实上, 社科这块基本是各说各的, 各自都有各自充分的理由
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AreBee.

楼主你记得一个词叫科普读物吗?
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wppt

深深地感受到国内硕士学位有多水了,教书育人一样都没做到
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TheBookKeeper

Reply to [pid=572337868,29786783,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=42196595]Kerwintse[/uid] (2021-12-10 05:15)
我说我是英国的硕士,你是不是也要说英国硕士水了
好吧确实水[s:ac:汗]
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Reply to [pid=572337206,29786783,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=23043061]Morphisms[/uid] (2021-12-10 04:44)
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您好,这里
顺带还有我写的论文,虽然很水
nicohashtagluv-avatar

nicohashtagluv

所以分析的那么好,有什么解决方案吗?
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TheBookKeeper

Reply to [pid=572337736,29786783,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=62597071]MingoJ[/uid] (2021-12-10 05:09)
完全不是,比如贫富差距这块儿,不了解帕累托最优那就是初中生讨论引力波-瞎说,看了几篇论文才发现早就研究的透彻的很了,国家甚至可以通过帕累托最优去量化地分配社会财富,来达到社会稳定和经济运转效率的平衡。相比较这些,网上还在那儿揪着让子弹飞破题,吊死资本家挂路灯呢[s:ac:汗]
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wppt

[quote][pid=572337910,29786783,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=8041627]想个名真难[/uid] (2021-12-10 05:17):

我说我是英国的硕士,你是不是也要说英国硕士水了
好吧确实水[s:ac:汗][/quote]英国硕士那就更可悲了,不仅浪费父母大量的钱,还啥东西都没学会,硕士该有的学术精神、逻辑思维通通没有,优越感却溢出屏幕
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TheBookKeeper

Reply to [pid=572338162,29786783,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=42196595]Kerwintse[/uid] (2021-12-10 05:30)
前辈教训的是
FEET?!?!?!-avatar

FEET?!?!?!

All models were wrong, but some are useful
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NIGEL

[s:ac:羞]的确很幼稚,不知道楼上在酸个什么劲
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Viruz

确实 电影就是依靠比较亲民的,娱乐性质站主导 不然也难在大众之间流传的这么广泛 通过电影传达学术思想不靠谱啊 受限于形式 片长 大众自身的姿势水平 成本,最理想就是做类似科普性质的宣传,想了解细节靠看电影/纪录片啥的还是想多了Reply to [pid=572338110,29786783,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=8041627]想个名真难[/uid] (2021-12-10 05:27)
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mangomonkey

帕累托最优和贫富差距是两个完全不同的问题吧?

达到了帕累托最优但是贫富差距非常大,这样的社会好吗?恐怕很不好。
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TheBookKeeper

Reply to [pid=572338493,29786783,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=19538260]一介蛋疼人士[/uid] (2021-12-10 05:47)
我觉得多来点儿专业人士做一些有意思的作品,让大众可以了解或者产生兴趣才是关键,比如P社的那些游戏就让很多人喜欢上历史,还有类似于巫师财经那样的金融类视频
至于有些人吹xx作品多么多有有思想性,这隐喻那专业的我觉得就大可不必了。比如我在豆瓣上见到吹某韩国法律电影吊打国内田园法学(原话)的[s:ac:汗]