谷爱凌双重国籍问题——按照美国法律解释

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ExcordXD

2022-02-06T08:38:32+00:00

争论点无非就是谷爱凌加入了中国国籍但是没有放弃美国国籍巴拉巴拉

以及2019年口头声明无效巴拉巴拉

引用美国法律:

[url]https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/Advice-about-Possible-Loss-of-US-Nationality-Dual-Nationality.html[/url]

Section 349 of the INA (8 U.S.C. 1481), as amended, states that U.S. nationals are subject to loss of nationality if they perform certain specifiedacts voluntarily and with the intention to relinquish U.S. nationality. Briefly stated, these acts include:

obtaining naturalization in a foreign state after the age of 18 (Sec. 349 (a) (1) INA);
taking an oath, affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state or its political subdivisions after the age of 18 (Sec. 349 (a) (2) INA);
entering or serving in the armed forces of a foreign state engaged in hostilities against the United States or serving as a commissioned or non-commissioned officer in the armed forces of a foreign state (Sec. 349 (a) (3) INA);
accepting employment with a foreign government after the age of 18 if (a) one has the nationality of that foreign state or (b) an oath or declaration of allegiance is required in accepting the position (Sec. 349 (a) (4) INA);
formally renouncing U.S. nationality before a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer outside the United States (sec. 349 (a) (5) INA);
formally renouncing U.S. nationality within the United States (The Department of Homeland Security is responsible for implementing this section of the law, and any inquiries should be directed to DHS) (Sec. 349 (a) (6) INA);
conviction for an act of treason against the Government of the United States or for attempting by force to overthrow, or bear arms against, the Government of the United States (Sec. 349 (a) (7) INA).
Administrative Presumption of Intent to Retain U.S. Citizenship

As already noted, the actions listed above will result in the loss of U.S. nationality if performed voluntarily and with the intention of relinquishing U.S. nationality. The Department has adopted an administrative presumption that U.S. nationals intend to retain United States nationality when they: obtain naturalization in a foreign state (INA 349 (a)(1)); declare their allegiance to a foreign state (INA 349(a)(2)); serve as an officer in the armed forces of a foreign state not engaged in hostilities with the United States (INA 349(a)(3)); or accept non-policy level employment with a foreign government (INA 349(a)(4)). In accordance with the administrative presumption, when an individual commits one of the foregoing acts, that person will retain U.S. nationality unless he or she affirmatively, explicitly, and unequivocally asserts an intention to relinquish such nationality.

简单翻一下:
美国公民放弃美国国籍的7种方式
1.18岁后加入他国国籍
2.宣誓效忠他国
3.加入他国武装
4.具备外国职务(如果接受的前提是加入他国国籍或者宣誓效忠他国)
5.在美国境外领事馆申请放弃
6.在美国国内申请放弃
7.叛国

特别约定:其中567自动生效。1234行为不会自动触发生效,需要明确表明自己放弃美国国籍的意愿。

现在已知事实。
1.谷爱凌加入了中国国籍(加了一个不承认双国籍的国家)
2.谷爱凌在2019年(此时未成年)宣布过放弃美国国籍。

如果真正的美国人和精神美国人非要强调这是双国籍。
那么必须保证2点
1.谷爱凌在成年之后没有声明过放弃美国国籍的意愿(intention)
2.加入一个不承认双国籍的国家的行为不包含放弃没国籍的意愿。

不然谷爱凌就是一个单国籍的中国人。

至于提到的各种申请balabala,也只是条文中的5和6而已。不是所有的退出美国国籍的方法。
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Aqua_squidge

只有loser才会纠结国籍问题,谷爱凌站领奖台宣布的国家就是PRC[s:ac:茶]
此时我只想高唱we are the champions里的一句话:no time for losers[s:ac:茶]
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Alxv3

[quote][pid=587367861,30595720,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=39741093]xsqxsq888[/uid] (2022-02-08 16:51):

只有loser才会纠结国籍问题,谷爱凌站领奖台宣布的国家就是PRC[s:ac:茶]
此时我只想高唱一曲we are the champions里的一句话:no time for losers[s:ac:茶][/quote][s:ac:哭笑] 我就不一样了,我想唱一首 another one bites the dust [s:a2:jojo立3]
volta-avatar

volta

[s:ac:嘲笑]其实,某种意义上在升国旗奏国歌的时候古已经触发条款4了………………

[s:ac:擦汗]而在北美红脖子那里,她已经触发条款7了……
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Yoduh

怎么还在纠结这个
cnn不是认证过了吗
[img]https://img.nga.178.com/attachments/mon_202202/08/-b756Qmlv4-3vaqZbT3cSht-10c.jpeg[/img]
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The Toxic God

看本人发言,是要做中美团结的桥梁。对否?
AHHHAHHHAHH-avatar

AHHHAHHHAHH

那你来告诉大家

2020年接受espn采访时说:我在中国是中国人,在美国是美国人

2022年2月8日赛后接受记者关于国籍的采访时说:体育不需要和国籍挂关系

算表达了一种什么意愿?

还有2015年杨振宁放弃美国国籍,加入中国这个不承认双重国籍的国家时,怎么还去irs申请,在federal regisier上还有杨老的记录?
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AHHHAHHHAHH

[quote][pid=587369024,30595720,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=42141925]花落尘雪无痕[/uid] (2022-02-08 16:55):

[s:ac:嘲笑]其实,某种意义上在升国旗奏国歌的时候古已经触发条款4了………………

[s:ac:擦汗]而在北美红脖子那里,她已经触发条款7了……[/quote]东京奥运会百米冠军雅各布斯是意大利和美国双重国籍,在东京奥运会上升起意大利国旗时怎么没有自动放弃美国国旗
Nephy-avatar

Nephy

Reply to [pid=587370731,30595720,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=61302026]TestTTT123[/uid] (2022-02-08 17:02)
嗨呀,你来了呀[s:ac:blink]
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CanadaOrNaw

[quote][pid=587370731,30595720,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=61302026]TestTTT123[/uid] (2022-02-08 17:02):

东京奥运会百米冠军雅各布斯是意大利和美国双重国籍,在东京奥运会上升起意大利国旗时怎么没有自动放弃美国国旗[/quote]他也让美国人破防了[s:ac:哭笑]他还自称自己是纯意大利爷们
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sal

[quote][pid=587371191,30595720,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=4592646]夜雨幻梦[/uid] (2022-02-08 17:03):

嗨呀,你来了呀[s:ac:blink][/quote]昨天在任子威帖子里上蹿下跳的也是他
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Blue-Eyes White Privilege

Reply to [pid=587370731,30595720,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=61302026]TestTTT123[/uid] (2022-02-08 17:02)因为美国双国籍是合法的,虽然不支持。意大利双国籍也是合法的。
AHHHAHHHAHH-avatar

AHHHAHHHAHH

[quote][pid=587371808,30595720,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=42455950]NeroAKL[/uid] (2022-02-08 17:06):

因为美国双国籍是合法的,虽然不支持。意大利双国籍也是合法的。[/quote]所以不存在什么自动放弃美国国籍的说法
Grams-avatar

Grams

有没人去红迪上发帖
抵制她入境[s:ac:哭笑]
Simp1yMoonlight-avatar

Simp1yMoonlight

用美国的的法律来管中国人了么
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King & Girl

[img]https://img.nga.178.com/attachments/mon_202202/08/-b756Qtmo-hfnnK1wT1kShs-sb.png[/img]如图所示[s:ac:茶][s:ac:茶][s:ac:茶]
Hers-avatar

Hers

谷爱凌站在领奖台上升起的是中国国旗,全世界都看到了[img]https://img.nga.178.com/attachments/mon_201209/14/-47218_5052bca81a77f.png[/img]
捌拾柒例新聞臺-avatar

捌拾柒例新聞臺

她宣誓了,不够吗?
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Recruit Donut

[quote][pid=587372073,30595720,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=61302026]TestTTT123[/uid] (2022-02-08 17:07):

所以不存在什么自动放弃美国国籍的说法[/quote]这怎么就能能证明不存在了? 你的逻辑是啥
Mooo-avatar

Mooo

[s:ac:怕]作为一个纯吃瓜群众,看了他赛后采访,我觉得这个国籍的事应该是存疑的,不然就直接说明不就行了嘛,而且她常年在美训练,在外比赛,美籍确实会比较方便[s:ac:哭笑]