有没有用过益生菌的大佬

Stef-avatar

Stef

双歧杆菌三联活菌胶囊,一般药店都有,如果是肠胃菌群紊乱的原因,这个效果还不错。
VixedArms-avatar

VixedArms

据说是智商税。因为益生菌到肚子里面都死光了
ThreesUp-avatar

ThreesUp

[quote][pid=407848926,20977735,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=41548371]很乖的小悠悠[/uid] (2020-03-25 15:04):

据说是智商税。因为益生菌到肚子里面都死光了[/quote]你肚子里本来就是有菌的 又不是无菌环境
Zachariah-avatar

Zachariah

[quote][pid=407848926,20977735,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=41548371]很乖的小悠悠[/uid] (2020-03-25 15:04):

据说是智商税。因为益生菌到肚子里面都死光了[/quote]不是智商税。人身体本来就有很多细菌
Reza~-avatar

Reza~

[quote][pid=407848926,20977735,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=41548371]很乖的小悠悠[/uid] (2020-03-25 15:04):

据说是智商税。因为益生菌到肚子里面都死光了[/quote]那是说的那些酸奶什么的,的确没保护好菌就死的,益生菌胶囊好一些
NathanSplosion-avatar

NathanSplosion

[quote][pid=407849228,20977735,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=61495743]小地方有大快乐啊[/uid] (2020-03-25 15:05):

你肚子里本来就是有菌的 又不是无菌环境[/quote]什么细菌能在胃液里存活下来??幽门螺旋杆菌吗?
TØNI XIV-avatar

TØNI XIV

整肠生,或者双歧杆菌什么的吧。之前肠道菌群失调吃过一段时间,关键还是看你饮食多注意,之前一段时间疯狂肚子不好,查肠镜也没查到什么,就是肠道菌群失调,就开了益生菌和谷氨酰胺肠溶胶囊。我觉得还行。当然关键还是饮食注意啊。
Zaika-avatar

Zaika

上次去消化不良去社区卫生所也给我开了楼上那个活菌胶囊,还需要冰箱冷藏
Sm0key-avatar

Sm0key

这个看医嘱的,一般情况你去超市买点冷藏的发酵酸奶就能补充很多肠道益生菌
ThreesUp-avatar

ThreesUp

[quote][pid=407850252,20977735,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=60065875]星白金[/uid] (2020-03-25 15:09):

什么细菌能在胃液里存活下来??幽门螺旋杆菌吗?[/quote]我不大清楚那些药具体怎么起作用的

我寻思着足够量的菌 或者菌体外面包个胶囊啥的 裹个糖粉啥的 还是能到达肠道的
The Headless Reaper-avatar

The Headless Reaper

Reply to [pid=407848685,20977735,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=12218623]wasdmaster[/uid] (2020-03-25 15:03)

这个不是保健品么是不是药店更贵
Imam-hatob-avatar

Imam-hatob

自己想想胃酸中所谓的益生菌能坚持多久

自己做个实验调一杯PH值1.3-1.8的盐酸,把益生菌仍里面……
Nugglyfe-avatar

Nugglyfe

保健品那种可能是智商税,药用益生菌可不是智商税,含量不一样的。
2435-avatar

2435

我吃的是:乳酸菌素片
非细菌感染腹泻效果挺好的
TDWarrior-avatar

TDWarrior

不是要求冻的 或者要求冷水冲泡的大都是智商税
TØNI XIV-avatar

TØNI XIV

[quote][pid=407850252,20977735,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=60065875]星白金[/uid] (2020-03-25 15:09):

什么细菌能在胃液里存活下来??幽门螺旋杆菌吗?[/quote]这个要看是什么益生菌,保健品那种不好说,不过医用的好像是有包埋技术来解决细菌提前被胃液或者胆汁杀死。(或者胶囊?)那种益生菌保存麻烦,不过不能说一点用没有。
Smooth Operator-avatar

Smooth Operator

怎么说呢,我之前经常拉肚子,然后连吃了3个月的四联活菌片,就是那种需要冷藏的。现在有所好转。
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sarumon_

嘿嘿嘿,前两天英语课刚学过
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Digestive Disorders OverviewCommon digestive problems include heartburn/GERD, IBD, and IBS. Symptoms may include bloating, diarrhea, gas, stomach pain, and stomach cramps. Treatment includes a combination of medication and lifestyle changes.Probiotics: Don't Believe the Hype?By Serena GordonHealthDay Reporter1.  THURSDAY, Sept. 6, 2018 (HealthDay News) -- They're sold everywhere, but can probiotics -- the good bacteria found in some foods like yogurt and insupplements -- really help restore digestive health?2.  Maybe, but only for some people, new research suggests. The Israeli researchers found that some people's digestive systems held on to the probiotics given in a supplement. But in others, the body expelled the good bacteria.3.  And, in a second study, the same team found that when taken along with a course of antibiotics, probiotics may actually delay gut bacteria from returning to normal.4.  Senior study author Dr. Eran Elinav said the findings suggest that more caution is needed when using probiotics, and that there shouldn't be a "one-size-fits-all" approach to probiotic supplements.5. "The current practice -- followed by millions of individuals who consume probiotics with the hope that they improve their health and prevent disease -- needs to be modified to one which is centered on the individual," Elinav said. He's a professor in the immunology department at the Weizmann Institute of Science in Rehovot, Israel.6. Probiotics are live microorganisms, often bacteria, believed to have beneficial health effects, according to the U.S. National Center for Complementary and Integrative Health (NCCIH). They have been studied in a variety of conditions, including antibiotic-related diarrhea, digestive disorders, tooth decay, allergies, eczema, liver disease and even the common cold. But there's no definitive evidence that probiotics work for any of these conditions, the NCCIH says.7. Yet, probiotic supplements are very popular. In a 2012 survey, about 4 million Americans said they had used a probiotic or prebiotic (dietary substances that encourage the growth of beneficial bacteria) supplement in the past month, according to the NCCIH.8. Elinav said that the use of probiotics should be subjected to the same scrutiny as other medical treatments. "Any such intervention needs to be weighed in terms of its benefits versus its harm potentials," he said.9. The first study done by Elinav and his team included 25 volunteers. They underwent upper endoscopy and colonoscopy so that the researchers could obtain samples of their "microbiome" (the gut's native bacteria) in different areas of the digestive system.10. Fifteen people from that group were then randomly placed into two groups for four weeks. One group received a supplement containing 11 strains of the most popular probiotic strains. The second group was given a placebo.11. After three weeks, they were given another endoscopy and colonoscopy to see what changes, if any, had occurred in the microbiome. Those receiving the probiotics had two different reactions to the supplements.12. One group -- dubbed persisters -- allowed the probiotic microbes to set up shop in their digestive system. The other group -- the "resisters" -- expelled the probiotics without meaningful changes to their microbiome, the investigators found.13. The researchers said they can tell from a person's microbiome and gene expression profile whether or not they are a persister or resister.14. In the second study, the researchers looked at whether or not probiotic supplements could help restore the natural microbiome after a course of antibiotics.15. The study included 21 people assigned to one of three groups: a watch-and-wait group that let their microbiome recover on its own; a probiotic group given an 11-strain supplement for four weeks; and a third group treated with a fecal transplant, using their own bacteria collected before the use of the antibiotic.Both the watch-and-wait group and the probiotic-supplement group hadn't returned to their normal microbiome after four weeks, the study found. The probiotic group had the slowest recovery to their initial microbiome. However, a fecal transplant resulted in a quick return of the normal microbiome.16. Elinav said these findings call for caution in the "indiscriminate" use of probiotics with antibiotics until the long-term effects are better understood.17. Registered dietician Samantha Heller said the researchers "are suggesting that the microbiome is like our fingerprint -- completely unique -- and we can't assume that a supplement will have the same effect from person to person."18. But, she added, this is an emerging science and the research is still very new. She said she would caution against buying kits on the internet that promise to map your microbiome because there's just not enough evidence yet to show that these tests work.19. What can help, she noted, is eating a more plant-based diet.20. "These healthy creatures that live in our guts have to eat what we eat, and they like fiber from plant foods. They don't like the typical Western diet," Heller said.Probiotics are a kind of fungi found in foods such as yogurt and nutritional supplements. Because they have some beneficial properties to the human digestive system, they have been taken in large quantities without any concerns. According to surveys, millions of people in the United States alone take supplements containing probiotics or prebiotics.However, two recent studies by some scientists on the relationship between probiotics and the human digestive system have found something worthy of attention. The results of these two studies indicate that the degree of acceptance of probiotics by different people is different And probiotics also slow the recovery of normal flora that is destroyed by antibiotics.Therefore, scientists suggest that people don't buy and take probiotic products blindly because people don't know much about it. If you want to protect the normal flora in your body, eating more vegetables is recognized.
大致意思就是这个东西不要自己瞎吃,不如吃点蔬菜(真的想吃可以去医院或者有能力的地方检查一下自己合不合适
ティアトロン-avatar

ティアトロン

[quote][pid=407852169,20977735,1]Reply[/pid] Post by [uid=42908230]飞翔的泡泡0209[/uid] (2020-03-25 15:15):

这个不是保健品么是不是药店更贵[/quote]记得是非处方药,以前有十几块一盒的,前几天买过一盒二、三十块的。